tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1561253375800464394.post8077407307841311989..comments2024-03-13T11:59:19.468+01:00Comments on Denes Kubicek ApEx BLOG: Oracle Database Developer Choice Awards (2nd)Denes Kubicekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01962373591521960882noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1561253375800464394.post-38257677327346339162015-11-21T19:38:14.428+01:002015-11-21T19:38:14.428+01:00yes, this is true that many of us are using APEX o...yes, this is true that many of us are using APEX on occasions when it is needed for our line of work. This is about the same as driving: we are driving only when we have to and there is no other way. Would this be shameful?<br />Regards,<br />vrUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10513571893662904432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1561253375800464394.post-59851377591322182272015-10-12T16:50:58.760+02:002015-10-12T16:50:58.760+02:00I like the way you vote (and think), Jeff. We will...I like the way you vote (and think), Jeff. We will not let down-voting affect outcomes.Steven Feuersteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18405765731886460622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1561253375800464394.post-268801398840582192015-10-12T03:00:39.339+02:002015-10-12T03:00:39.339+02:00My vote would be to pointedly ignore all downvotes...My vote would be to pointedly ignore all downvotes and award the prize according to positive votes only :)Jeffrey Kemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04255101699328756710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1561253375800464394.post-85500122776274628032015-10-09T10:25:48.138+02:002015-10-09T10:25:48.138+02:00I agree that there just simply ought to be more vo...I agree that there just simply ought to be more votes, not just in APEX category but in general. In APEX category there is just more of a difference between number of votes and how active the community is otherwise. I know it has been a surprise to many that APEX is not in the lead in number of votes.<br /><br />As Jeff said, it's probably a fact of life that many seem to think they are so busy that they can't spare time to say thanks. I think it is everywhere, not just on the net, that we see less "politeness", though the net may be worse than "real life." We don't have to like it and we don't have to accept it, but we may have to live with it and just be content to fight "impoliteness" wherever we can ;-)<br /><br />The downvotes I also find it hard to imagine anyone downvoting out of personal grievances. I think it more likely that downvotes occur for one of two reasons:<br />1) Change of mind. The voting system unfortunately is such that once you have upvoted someone, you cannot remove the vote if you change your mind, you can only change it from upvote to downvote.<br />2) Misunderstood "help". Fans upvoting their own favorite and downvoting the competition in order to "help" their own.<br /><br />I am daily calculating voting results, including what the ranking would have been if only positive votes are counted:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.kibeha.dk/2015/10/oracle-database-developer-choice-awards.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kibeha.dk/2015/10/oracle-database-developer-choice-awards.html</a><br /><br />Until very recently the APEX community has actually been very polite with very few downvotes. Now Jari Laine has dropped to 4th place according to score, but still 2nd place according to only positive votes.Kim Berg Hansenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06491635470794828550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1561253375800464394.post-25362141747538331482015-10-09T08:10:35.307+02:002015-10-09T08:10:35.307+02:00Everyone is selfish to a greater or lesser degree ...Everyone is selfish to a greater or lesser degree - only with maturity does one learn that "it is better to give than to receive".<br /><br />We see the same thing on Stackoverflow all the time - people ask a question (often a "do my job for me" type question), get an answer, and MAYBE they'll come back and say thanks by marking the answer as accepted, but quite often they disappear.<br /><br />Just a fact of life, I think. All we can do is get the word out as much as possible and each do the best we can.<br /><br />I don't understand the downvotes. It's hard to imagine anyone having a personal grievance against any of these people to the point of actually deciding to downvote!Jeffrey Kemphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04255101699328756710noreply@blogger.com